tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8357505267781693528.post2109712343161353617..comments2023-05-02T12:11:55.555+02:00Comments on WE ARE THE WHOLE ELEPHANT: Filtering stories the Nonviolent wayIvaahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09002477784275303313noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8357505267781693528.post-72377971268538297072013-12-18T23:48:46.400+01:002013-12-18T23:48:46.400+01:00[Eva Jakobsen has a blog that translates into «you...[Eva Jakobsen has a blog that translates into «yourpsychologistonline», and is a professional that I respect for her willingness to invite critical people like me into discussions, and her ability to incorporate different viewpoints into her thinking. She actually listens to us who have been harmed by therapy, and she has developed creative suggestions about how to avoid that kind of harm. Her latest post is “Psykiatri utopi”, and I am herewith asking for permission to translate it into English when I have time.]<br />Eva, I’m answering in English because your comment deserves a bigger audience, and first I want to thank you for responding so quickly! I felt like I had gone out on a thin and shaky limb, and it was reassuring to read that I have mentioned much that needs to be looked more closely at.<br /><br />You make an important point in addition to my concerns about treating traumatized people in front of an audience: If anyone is to go onstage, it must be because they wish to talk about harm that both they and others in the room have been subjected to, because it is important to underscore that harm is not only the story of individuals, it is about societal subjugation and abuse of power.<br /><br />An example of when TELLING to an audience is too early: A social worker once told me that she had attended a workshop on sexual abuse, where a young survivor who was visibly uncomfortable about doing so, told her story, and was hugged and comforted by the arrangers – on stage – when her ordeal was over. The audience felt very bad about this, as they sensed that it was too early for this young woman.<br /><br />When I have lectured about sexual abuse, I started with bits of my personal story, but I was comfortable doing it because I had been in the story with myself beforehand --- sorry, I don’t have the words to describe this right now, do you understand what I mean?<br /><br />You write that forgiveness is an appropriate goal with small stuff that happens in all sorts of close relations, and that rights and protection are more appropriate goals when it comes to abuse. I couldn’t agree more! <br />Ivaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09002477784275303313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8357505267781693528.post-10165918142699323032013-12-16T22:57:12.475+01:002013-12-16T22:57:12.475+01:00Det gjorde godt å lese din respons, Eva - som så o...Det gjorde godt å lese din respons, Eva - som så ofte før, er jeg selvsikker mens jeg skriver og får tynn is-følelse når det er lagt ut. <br /><br />Sliten nå, skriver mer i morgen.Ivaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09002477784275303313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8357505267781693528.post-34105297818070041112013-12-16T22:29:52.899+01:002013-12-16T22:29:52.899+01:00Du peker ut mye som bør gås nærmere etter i sømmen...Du peker ut mye som bør gås nærmere etter i sømmene. Jeg er helt enig i at traumatiserte mennesker ikke må trekkes fram på en scene hvor de skal behandles foran en tilskuerskare. Skal noen opp på scenen må det være fordi de ønsker å vitne om overgrep som de og andre i salen har blitt utsatt for. For det er viktig å erkjenne at overgrep ikke bare er enkeltindividers historie. Det handler i mye større grad om undertrykking og maktmisbruk. Å avsløre hvordan felles forestillinger og makthierarkier i et samfunn bidrar til legitimering og usynnliggjøring av overgrep er en svært viktig del av arbeidet med traumer. Tilgivelse er et passende mål med småting som skjer innenfor alle nære relasjoner. Rettigheter og beskyttelse er mer passende mål i forhold til overgrep. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com